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		<title>By: joycepa</title>
		<link>http://joycepa.wordpress.com/2009/07/09/honduras-again/#comment-1068</link>
		<dc:creator>joycepa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Aug 2009 10:47:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I checked out the link and you can find this as part of a larger article in the Opinion section.  For the most  part, I am favorably inclined to faith-based NGOs--so long as I know who&#039;s really behind them.  It&#039;s hard to tell with this one--seems innocuous, but I really don&#039;t know.  

Joyce</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I checked out the link and you can find this as part of a larger article in the Opinion section.  For the most  part, I am favorably inclined to faith-based NGOs&#8211;so long as I know who&#8217;s really behind them.  It&#8217;s hard to tell with this one&#8211;seems innocuous, but I really don&#8217;t know.  </p>
<p>Joyce</p>
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		<title>By: Gordo</title>
		<link>http://joycepa.wordpress.com/2009/07/09/honduras-again/#comment-1067</link>
		<dc:creator>Gordo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Aug 2009 06:15:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been reading La Gringa&#039;s accounts of this ongoing crisis from the outset - some great reporting of a fascinating story that continues to play out. Yesterday I came across a site put up by a faith-based NGO operating in Honduras AJA) that had the following to say about the events there (though curiously, they seem to have disappeared since yesterday):

&quot;deposed President Mel Zelaya&#039;s record
was dismal. His administration has been plagued by
ineffectiveness and myriad accusations of
corruption. During his first year in office, his
administration received over $4 billion in debt
forgiveness—with the chief condition that any
money not spent on debt was to be invested in
reducing poverty. Many organizations, including
Christian NGOs, worked for over a year to define
how this money could be best invested. However,
Zelaya ignored their efforts and instead tried to buy
votes by spending 70 percent of the money on raises
for teachers and health workers, and the rest on
ineffective but politically powerful &quot;cash coupons&quot; for the rural poor. Zelaya
has also failed to deliver on
promises to build houses, promote land reform, build a new international airport
and fight corruption. In the
meantime, he has used public funds to finance a pro-government newspaper and TV
station, flashy TV and
radio ads, and pro-government demonstrations.
On the other hand, the military coup that left Roberto Micheletti in the
presidential palace was illegal, and has
been followed by the suspension of civil liberties, the reinstatement of
political actors from the `80s who were
known for their violent suppression of &quot;dissidents,&quot; the repression of news
sources, and the use of violence
against unarmed protesters. The decision to fly Zelaya out of the country
instead of arresting and trying him
has isolated Honduras from the rest of the world. It has drawn criticism from
the many countries which
withdrew their ambassadors and aid money, has led to the suspension of Honduras
from the Organization of
American States, and destroyed ties with key allied countries.
The current stalemate reveals that what this is really about is two groups of
people fighting over who gets to
use Honduras&#039; government for their own personal gain. This adds to the hopeless
frustration that many
Hondurans feel that the country is run by a ruling group of elite politicians
and businesspeople who do not
make decisions based on what is best for average Hondurans.
However, this crisis also provides an opportunity for the poor to be heard and
for the international
community to demand an end to the corruption that has plagued this country for
far too long.
Those of the poor (and of the middle class) who were excited by Zelaya&#039;s plan to
rewrite the constitution and
who have protested for his return rightfully point out that democracy as it has
been practiced in Honduras
has paid scant attention to the voices and needs of the poor. Those who support
Micheletti&#039;s interim
government (most of the middle and upper classes, but also a significant
percentage of the poor) rightfully
point out that the path to increased freedom, equality, and prosperity in
Honduras is that of strengthening
government institutions and the system of checks and balances, not consolidating
power in the executive
branch, as Zelaya seemed set on doing.&quot;

http://www.ajs-us.org/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been reading La Gringa&#8217;s accounts of this ongoing crisis from the outset &#8211; some great reporting of a fascinating story that continues to play out. Yesterday I came across a site put up by a faith-based NGO operating in Honduras AJA) that had the following to say about the events there (though curiously, they seem to have disappeared since yesterday):</p>
<p>&#8220;deposed President Mel Zelaya&#8217;s record<br />
was dismal. His administration has been plagued by<br />
ineffectiveness and myriad accusations of<br />
corruption. During his first year in office, his<br />
administration received over $4 billion in debt<br />
forgiveness—with the chief condition that any<br />
money not spent on debt was to be invested in<br />
reducing poverty. Many organizations, including<br />
Christian NGOs, worked for over a year to define<br />
how this money could be best invested. However,<br />
Zelaya ignored their efforts and instead tried to buy<br />
votes by spending 70 percent of the money on raises<br />
for teachers and health workers, and the rest on<br />
ineffective but politically powerful &#8220;cash coupons&#8221; for the rural poor. Zelaya<br />
has also failed to deliver on<br />
promises to build houses, promote land reform, build a new international airport<br />
and fight corruption. In the<br />
meantime, he has used public funds to finance a pro-government newspaper and TV<br />
station, flashy TV and<br />
radio ads, and pro-government demonstrations.<br />
On the other hand, the military coup that left Roberto Micheletti in the<br />
presidential palace was illegal, and has<br />
been followed by the suspension of civil liberties, the reinstatement of<br />
political actors from the `80s who were<br />
known for their violent suppression of &#8220;dissidents,&#8221; the repression of news<br />
sources, and the use of violence<br />
against unarmed protesters. The decision to fly Zelaya out of the country<br />
instead of arresting and trying him<br />
has isolated Honduras from the rest of the world. It has drawn criticism from<br />
the many countries which<br />
withdrew their ambassadors and aid money, has led to the suspension of Honduras<br />
from the Organization of<br />
American States, and destroyed ties with key allied countries.<br />
The current stalemate reveals that what this is really about is two groups of<br />
people fighting over who gets to<br />
use Honduras&#8217; government for their own personal gain. This adds to the hopeless<br />
frustration that many<br />
Hondurans feel that the country is run by a ruling group of elite politicians<br />
and businesspeople who do not<br />
make decisions based on what is best for average Hondurans.<br />
However, this crisis also provides an opportunity for the poor to be heard and<br />
for the international<br />
community to demand an end to the corruption that has plagued this country for<br />
far too long.<br />
Those of the poor (and of the middle class) who were excited by Zelaya&#8217;s plan to<br />
rewrite the constitution and<br />
who have protested for his return rightfully point out that democracy as it has<br />
been practiced in Honduras<br />
has paid scant attention to the voices and needs of the poor. Those who support<br />
Micheletti&#8217;s interim<br />
government (most of the middle and upper classes, but also a significant<br />
percentage of the poor) rightfully<br />
point out that the path to increased freedom, equality, and prosperity in<br />
Honduras is that of strengthening<br />
government institutions and the system of checks and balances, not consolidating<br />
power in the executive<br />
branch, as Zelaya seemed set on doing.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ajs-us.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.ajs-us.org/</a></p>
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		<title>By: joycepa</title>
		<link>http://joycepa.wordpress.com/2009/07/09/honduras-again/#comment-1066</link>
		<dc:creator>joycepa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 23:41:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Keep on posting, LG--not that you need any encouragement from me!  :-)

Joyce</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Keep on posting, LG&#8211;not that you need any encouragement from me!  <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Joyce</p>
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		<title>By: La Gringa</title>
		<link>http://joycepa.wordpress.com/2009/07/09/honduras-again/#comment-1065</link>
		<dc:creator>La Gringa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 22:14:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, I don&#039;t think I said that Chavez invented buying votes. In fact, I&#039;ve written about the practice of buying votes in Honduras last year, and probably before that, too. 

I know that you know that I&#039;ve written about corruption many times in the past. I&#039;m not so foolish to think that everyone involved with removing Zelaya are angels. No way! But I do think that they did the right thing in removing him. 

Obviously, they could have done it differently but I&#039;m not sure that it would have made that much difference to the rest of the world. My hope is that this is the first step in change for the better for Honduras and a reduction to future corruption.

Thanks for writing about Honduras.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, I don&#8217;t think I said that Chavez invented buying votes. In fact, I&#8217;ve written about the practice of buying votes in Honduras last year, and probably before that, too. </p>
<p>I know that you know that I&#8217;ve written about corruption many times in the past. I&#8217;m not so foolish to think that everyone involved with removing Zelaya are angels. No way! But I do think that they did the right thing in removing him. </p>
<p>Obviously, they could have done it differently but I&#8217;m not sure that it would have made that much difference to the rest of the world. My hope is that this is the first step in change for the better for Honduras and a reduction to future corruption.</p>
<p>Thanks for writing about Honduras.</p>
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		<title>By: joycepa</title>
		<link>http://joycepa.wordpress.com/2009/07/09/honduras-again/#comment-1044</link>
		<dc:creator>joycepa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 14:40:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, Dan--good to hear from you again.

I hope that people will keep reading La Gringa&#039;s Blogicito--she has more posts up today and others she posted yesterday after I linked to her blog.

I&#039;ll check out the LA Times article.  Thanks for the link.

Joyce</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, Dan&#8211;good to hear from you again.</p>
<p>I hope that people will keep reading La Gringa&#8217;s Blogicito&#8211;she has more posts up today and others she posted yesterday after I linked to her blog.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll check out the LA Times article.  Thanks for the link.</p>
<p>Joyce</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Miller</title>
		<link>http://joycepa.wordpress.com/2009/07/09/honduras-again/#comment-1043</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 14:25:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joyce, I read la Gringa&#039;s blog with great interest and hope that many more people will read it. Thank you for posting it. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/commentary/la-oe-estrada10-2009jul10,0,4262300.story&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; Here&lt;/a&gt; is an Op Ed piece from the &lt;i&gt;La Times&lt;/i&gt; which, I think, puts the situation in perspective by highlighting the Honduran Constitution and laws. I had made many of the same points in this &lt;a href=&quot;http://blogcritics.org/politics/article/presidents-chvez-obama-et-al-are/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;article&lt;/a&gt; on 30 June, but the Honduran attorney who wrote the &lt;i&gt;La Times&lt;/i&gt; piece did a better job.

Dan Miller</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joyce, I read la Gringa&#8217;s blog with great interest and hope that many more people will read it. Thank you for posting it. <a href="http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/commentary/la-oe-estrada10-2009jul10,0,4262300.story" rel="nofollow"> Here</a> is an Op Ed piece from the <i>La Times</i> which, I think, puts the situation in perspective by highlighting the Honduran Constitution and laws. I had made many of the same points in this <a href="http://blogcritics.org/politics/article/presidents-chvez-obama-et-al-are/" rel="nofollow">article</a> on 30 June, but the Honduran attorney who wrote the <i>La Times</i> piece did a better job.</p>
<p>Dan Miller</p>
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