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		<title>Comment on Papayas by joycepa</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 11:32:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jonna, I&#039;m sure there are many different varieties of papayas.  So, maybe the ones you buy are simply a variety that has fewer seeds.

Why the small ones are called Hawaiian papayas, I can only guess.  It seems to be the case that the small varieties are tastier--I first noticed that in Brasil, when my Brasilian friends, at the huge open-air markets, would choose the smaller ones if they were available.  We eat the larger varieties from the fruit stands with lime juice, but we didn&#039;t have to with the one we harvested from our tree!  Yet, all the papaya trees we have were grown from seeds from papayas we bought in the markets.

Joyce</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jonna, I&#8217;m sure there are many different varieties of papayas.  So, maybe the ones you buy are simply a variety that has fewer seeds.</p>
<p>Why the small ones are called Hawaiian papayas, I can only guess.  It seems to be the case that the small varieties are tastier&#8211;I first noticed that in Brasil, when my Brasilian friends, at the huge open-air markets, would choose the smaller ones if they were available.  We eat the larger varieties from the fruit stands with lime juice, but we didn&#8217;t have to with the one we harvested from our tree!  Yet, all the papaya trees we have were grown from seeds from papayas we bought in the markets.</p>
<p>Joyce</p>
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		<title>Comment on Papayas by Jonna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 06:11:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, that looks delicious.  The ones I buy in the market have a lot less seeds.  No doubt they are old or something.  I&#039;m dying to try a Hawaiian papaya, I&#039;ve no idea if they are even available here as I only see one kind in the stores.  Silly me, when I was traveling to Hawaii all the time I thought I didn&#039;t like papaya.  That was before I discovered the joys of a little lime juice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, that looks delicious.  The ones I buy in the market have a lot less seeds.  No doubt they are old or something.  I&#8217;m dying to try a Hawaiian papaya, I&#8217;ve no idea if they are even available here as I only see one kind in the stores.  Silly me, when I was traveling to Hawaii all the time I thought I didn&#8217;t like papaya.  That was before I discovered the joys of a little lime juice.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Fer-De-Lance Sighting by joycepa</title>
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		<dc:creator>joycepa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:49:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This morning, as I was going on my walk keeping a weather eye out for large reptiles, it dawned on me that probably many people would wonder why we didn&#039;t kill the snake yesterday.  Answer: it never occurred to either one of us (or to Lucy and Fred who were in the back seat, totally disinterested).  We could have run over it initially.  But we were  too fascinated and too awed by what we saw.  When we got up closer--I would say within two feet--of the snake, it was already into the drainage ditch and &quot;climbing&quot; up the bank to the overgrown property where I have no doubt it has companions.  Then, we couldn&#039;t have.  But it still never occurred to either one of us.

It&#039;s actually rare anymore that you hear of anyone being bitten by a snake, thanks to the fact that most field workers--where you are most likely to encounter the fer-de-lance and other venomous snakes--wear boots.  The snakes strike &quot;downward&quot;, and most bites are on the ankles and feet as well as wrists and hands for those who aren&#039;t terrible bright who put their hands in areas that they can&#039;t see.  

Yes, Panamanians do kill them, and we would, too, if they were on the cleared part of our property.  But we work hard at making the whole area, except for our swath of jungle, rodent-unfriendly and therefore snake-unfriendly.  There really is no cover for them.  Are there snakes in our jungle swath?  Most likely.  But we avoid that area in October and November, and there are whole sections we couldn&#039;t penetrate anymore because it&#039;s so overgrown.

The latest snake incident we&#039;ve had was when Darío killed a coral snake last year, I believe.  I don&#039;t know where he was or what he was doing, but he showed us the snake after it had been decapitated.

I know that large and middle-sized snakes are important in rat and other rodent control, even the fer-de-lance.  It eats small mammals like rats, lizards and birds.  No, I don&#039;t want it around the house!  But no, I won&#039;t kill one that is in its own environment, either.

Joyce</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This morning, as I was going on my walk keeping a weather eye out for large reptiles, it dawned on me that probably many people would wonder why we didn&#8217;t kill the snake yesterday.  Answer: it never occurred to either one of us (or to Lucy and Fred who were in the back seat, totally disinterested).  We could have run over it initially.  But we were  too fascinated and too awed by what we saw.  When we got up closer&#8211;I would say within two feet&#8211;of the snake, it was already into the drainage ditch and &#8220;climbing&#8221; up the bank to the overgrown property where I have no doubt it has companions.  Then, we couldn&#8217;t have.  But it still never occurred to either one of us.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s actually rare anymore that you hear of anyone being bitten by a snake, thanks to the fact that most field workers&#8211;where you are most likely to encounter the fer-de-lance and other venomous snakes&#8211;wear boots.  The snakes strike &#8220;downward&#8221;, and most bites are on the ankles and feet as well as wrists and hands for those who aren&#8217;t terrible bright who put their hands in areas that they can&#8217;t see.  </p>
<p>Yes, Panamanians do kill them, and we would, too, if they were on the cleared part of our property.  But we work hard at making the whole area, except for our swath of jungle, rodent-unfriendly and therefore snake-unfriendly.  There really is no cover for them.  Are there snakes in our jungle swath?  Most likely.  But we avoid that area in October and November, and there are whole sections we couldn&#8217;t penetrate anymore because it&#8217;s so overgrown.</p>
<p>The latest snake incident we&#8217;ve had was when Darío killed a coral snake last year, I believe.  I don&#8217;t know where he was or what he was doing, but he showed us the snake after it had been decapitated.</p>
<p>I know that large and middle-sized snakes are important in rat and other rodent control, even the fer-de-lance.  It eats small mammals like rats, lizards and birds.  No, I don&#8217;t want it around the house!  But no, I won&#8217;t kill one that is in its own environment, either.</p>
<p>Joyce</p>
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		<title>Comment on Fer-De-Lance Sighting by Gm</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 15:26:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If I had to it all over again I would have let it go as like many folks I have adopted a more conservative approach to the environment and its creatures.   The planet did just fine before us human started corrupting everything we touch in the environment.    Perhaps I may be able to give back a little of what we humans have stolen from the planet some day. 
This should serve as notice to all that we are in for a rough ride if we continue to turn our backs on the planet since our recorded history and probably before that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I had to it all over again I would have let it go as like many folks I have adopted a more conservative approach to the environment and its creatures.   The planet did just fine before us human started corrupting everything we touch in the environment.    Perhaps I may be able to give back a little of what we humans have stolen from the planet some day.<br />
This should serve as notice to all that we are in for a rough ride if we continue to turn our backs on the planet since our recorded history and probably before that.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Fer-De-Lance Sighting by joycepa</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 09:47:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, Greg, that is such a wonderful story!!  Yes, I&#039;ll bet the Panamanians still are afraid of boas.  I&#039;ve read that boas are deceptively fast and can surprise even professional snake handlers--and can be very dangerous.

Too bad about the skin!  

Joyce</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, Greg, that is such a wonderful story!!  Yes, I&#8217;ll bet the Panamanians still are afraid of boas.  I&#8217;ve read that boas are deceptively fast and can surprise even professional snake handlers&#8211;and can be very dangerous.</p>
<p>Too bad about the skin!  </p>
<p>Joyce</p>
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		<title>Comment on Fer-De-Lance Sighting by Gm</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 04:07:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You would love the snake I cough in the CZ 25 years ago.  As A young stud I mean young man I was working in the jungle and came a cross a 11-1/2 foot Boa and of course I had to have it so I ran it over 30 or 40 times and then once more for good measure then brought it back to my work center.  When I walked in the shop door I had the snake coiled all around my body and all my Panamanian co-workers went running out the other side.  It turns out  they had and probably still have a fear of these monster snakes.

 It weighed 34 pounds.  I had the skin drying out on the roof and some blasterd bird or perhaps a cat got it and it was gone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You would love the snake I cough in the CZ 25 years ago.  As A young stud I mean young man I was working in the jungle and came a cross a 11-1/2 foot Boa and of course I had to have it so I ran it over 30 or 40 times and then once more for good measure then brought it back to my work center.  When I walked in the shop door I had the snake coiled all around my body and all my Panamanian co-workers went running out the other side.  It turns out  they had and probably still have a fear of these monster snakes.</p>
<p> It weighed 34 pounds.  I had the skin drying out on the roof and some blasterd bird or perhaps a cat got it and it was gone.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Fer-De-Lance Sighting by joycepa</title>
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		<dc:creator>joycepa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:33:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, October is supposedly fer-de-lance month.  Everyone I&#039;ve ever talked with, Panamanians, long-time gringos, all say the same thing.  But Darío used to say November was, too.  According to the locals, the snakes mate in October and travel in pairs, which makes them doubly deadly.  But I kind of doubt that a fer-de-lance, looks at the calendar, says &quot;Gee, October 1, think I&#039;ll look for a honey and make some whoopee together,&quot; then on November 1, regretfully gives it all up again for another year (I&#039;ve just read that they can lie 20 years).  So, I&#039;m cautious in November, too.  Especially on walks in the pine woods--I&#039;ve cut mine a little short for the next few weeks.

When Ernesto Santamaria&#039;s brother (whose name I can never remember) mowed the property in front of us (Tom Pittí&#039;s) a couple of months ago, he told me that it was to reduce the snake cover--and also told me that he had killed two snakes while doing so.  Pittí&#039;s property is now growing again, but is nothing like the Brunelles&#039; across the road from us.  That&#039;s looked dangerous to me for a while.  But then I suppose you have nothing to fear unless you go waltzing in there during the day without boots.

It would make sense that Arcadio killed a young fer-de-lance given the time of year.  My reading says they&#039;re just as lethal as adults and sometimes more so, if they have gone too long without food.  I mean I get grumpy when I&#039;m hungry, but let&#039;s show some restraint, I say!

Joyce</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, October is supposedly fer-de-lance month.  Everyone I&#8217;ve ever talked with, Panamanians, long-time gringos, all say the same thing.  But Darío used to say November was, too.  According to the locals, the snakes mate in October and travel in pairs, which makes them doubly deadly.  But I kind of doubt that a fer-de-lance, looks at the calendar, says &#8220;Gee, October 1, think I&#8217;ll look for a honey and make some whoopee together,&#8221; then on November 1, regretfully gives it all up again for another year (I&#8217;ve just read that they can lie 20 years).  So, I&#8217;m cautious in November, too.  Especially on walks in the pine woods&#8211;I&#8217;ve cut mine a little short for the next few weeks.</p>
<p>When Ernesto Santamaria&#8217;s brother (whose name I can never remember) mowed the property in front of us (Tom Pittí&#8217;s) a couple of months ago, he told me that it was to reduce the snake cover&#8211;and also told me that he had killed two snakes while doing so.  Pittí&#8217;s property is now growing again, but is nothing like the Brunelles&#8217; across the road from us.  That&#8217;s looked dangerous to me for a while.  But then I suppose you have nothing to fear unless you go waltzing in there during the day without boots.</p>
<p>It would make sense that Arcadio killed a young fer-de-lance given the time of year.  My reading says they&#8217;re just as lethal as adults and sometimes more so, if they have gone too long without food.  I mean I get grumpy when I&#8217;m hungry, but let&#8217;s show some restraint, I say!</p>
<p>Joyce</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Path Between The Seas by joycepa</title>
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		<dc:creator>joycepa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:23:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>McCullough is just top -notch, Marion.  I intend to get his biography of Truman one of these days.

Joyce</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>McCullough is just top -notch, Marion.  I intend to get his biography of Truman one of these days.</p>
<p>Joyce</p>
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		<title>Comment on Fer-De-Lance Sighting by Marion Clamp</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marion Clamp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 22:29:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh Oh, Fer de Lance invasion!!  Arkadio found one last week on our property hidden under some vegetation he was clearing out.  Thankfully his reflexes are fast and he pulled his hand out, but did kill the snake and proudly showed it to us from it&#039;s &quot;final resting place&quot; in the can he had placed it in.  Same (more or less) coloring.  Lance-like head, grey/brown on top -- I didn&#039;t check any further.  Seems like they are setting up home both in the long grass opposite your property and the long grass at the back of our property, which is usually cut once a year, twice if we are lucky.  Our invader  was not as large as the one you saw, maybe 18 inches long -- possibly the sign of a nest and young &#039;uns.  Marv keeps telling me when I go gardening,  &quot;Don&#039;t stick your hand where you can&#039;t see clearly&quot;  now I may actually take notice of his advice (will be the first time in 34 years!!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh Oh, Fer de Lance invasion!!  Arkadio found one last week on our property hidden under some vegetation he was clearing out.  Thankfully his reflexes are fast and he pulled his hand out, but did kill the snake and proudly showed it to us from it&#8217;s &#8220;final resting place&#8221; in the can he had placed it in.  Same (more or less) coloring.  Lance-like head, grey/brown on top &#8212; I didn&#8217;t check any further.  Seems like they are setting up home both in the long grass opposite your property and the long grass at the back of our property, which is usually cut once a year, twice if we are lucky.  Our invader  was not as large as the one you saw, maybe 18 inches long &#8212; possibly the sign of a nest and young &#8216;uns.  Marv keeps telling me when I go gardening,  &#8220;Don&#8217;t stick your hand where you can&#8217;t see clearly&#8221;  now I may actually take notice of his advice (will be the first time in 34 years!!)</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Path Between The Seas by Marion Clamp</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marion Clamp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 22:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bought and read this book about three years ago, fascinating.  I have several books on Panama, some I tossed (too biased), some I will reread, but for a non-fiction historical book (history was never my favorite subject --  as a Brit learning history in school, too much going too far back with too many dates) this really holds your interest and one that can&#039;t be beat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bought and read this book about three years ago, fascinating.  I have several books on Panama, some I tossed (too biased), some I will reread, but for a non-fiction historical book (history was never my favorite subject &#8212;  as a Brit learning history in school, too much going too far back with too many dates) this really holds your interest and one that can&#8217;t be beat.</p>
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